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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>I agree... I would be the first in
line to take a test and I know for fact I would pass it !!!!! I pride
myself on keeping up to date with all the codes and on occasion some of you may
have seen me attending code conferences... Now if only the economy would recover
and we ALL could get back to work.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Best to all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>Designdiva</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=4>aka Linda A Pease Residential
Designer since 1989.......:>)</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chandlerknowles@att.net
href="mailto:chandlerknowles@att.net">Chandler Knowles</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=codetalk@myfloridacode.com
href="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:26
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Florida Code Talk] Design
by Contractor</DIV>
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<DIV>I, for one, would not be opposed to some sort of licensing of designers
where they are required to show a minimum level of competence; provided the
other 'they' doesn't go crazy with requirements to the end of a hidden
agenda.</DIV>
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<DIV>The registration of architects in Florida has become a form of labor
union in a right-to-work state by excluding all except graduates of
architecture schools from even applying for testing and registration.</DIV>
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<DIV>R.S.</DIV>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Chandler Knowles <BR>Pensacola,
FL<BR></DIV><!--<BR>-->
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Original message from Eric Kuritzky <kuritzky@bellsouth.net>:
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Unfortunately, true. However, architects are
regulated and can be punished for failing to comply with their licensing
requirements. Less than knowledgeable designers just hurt the public.
And the homes get sold and resold to unsuspecting purchasers.
The licensure, just like building officials and building inspectors
and contractors, is there to protect the public. And generally, it
works to improve the process.<BR><BR><IMG
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<B>From: </B>Chandler Knowles <chandlerknowles@att.net><BR><B>Date:
</B>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:30:36 +0000<BR><B>To:
</B><codetalk@myfloridacode.com><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Florida Code
Talk] Design by Contractor<BR><BR>I submit that the problem is knowledge of
the codes, not registration. I have worked with many architects and
engineers that do not know the Codes as well as I do (a humble
designer).<BR> <BR>I am a semi-retired designer-builder with 40 years
in construction. In my experience, ignorance of Codes (minimums) and
construction technique is just as prevalent with most registered and
unregistered designers. The effect is worse with the registered guys,
though, because expectations are higher.<BR> <BR>The FBC is available
free online and a personal copy is readily available for purchase.
Reading it is another matter. Now, continuing education is a
good idea for everybody.<BR> <BR>Most architects think residential
design is beneath them and make no effort to learn the unique aspects such
as details of wood frame construction. The element in the production
process that carries the poor plans (if anything does) is the skill and
quality of the builder.<BR> <BR>Respectfully
submitted.<BR> <BR>--<BR>Chandler Knowles <BR>Pensacola,
FL<BR><BR> <BR></SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">-------------- Original message from Eric Kuritzky
<kuritzky@bellsouth.net>: -------------- <BR><BR>And this is why the
code should not exempt residential construction from being designed by
architect/engineers. You get people who are unfamiliar with, not
current with, the codes. And doing the construction on top of
it.<BR><BR>Homes. It’s where people live, sleep, and raise their
children. Don’t you think that this type of construction deserves
the same attention and protection as other structures in order to protect
people?<BR><BR>How about we just call residences farm buildings and exempt
them all together?<BR><BR><IMG
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<B>From: </B><Designsarasota@aol.com><BR><B>Date: </B>Wed, 14 Apr
2010 12:43:20 EDT<BR><B>To:
</B><codetalk@myfloridacode.com><BR><B>Subject: </B>[Florida Code
Talk] Design by Contractor<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><FONT face=Arial>I have done my own drawings on a
bunch of homes prior to the housing bust, and they were all designed by
1099 standards and language. I have not done one since the codes have
changed. Can anyone help me with what the current design standard and
necessary language that is required on the cover page of the drawings. The
project I have coming up is residential and not on a barrier island, and I
want to do Contractor sealed drawings.<BR>Barry Barbas<BR>Barbas Buildings
and Designs, Inc.<BR></FONT><FONT face="Times, Times New Roman"><BR>
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