<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">IMO SFR do require a graspable handrail.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 12/17/09, codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com <I><codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A>><BR>Message-ID: <4290E21E599D48A9B347C99ACF5D277C@ben><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Merry Christmas all.<BR>assuming an individual has met all licensing requirements of FS 633 and 468, can he then be both the local building official and the local fire official/ inspector? <BR>thanks, ben<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20091217/6912ab51/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank>http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20091217/6912ab51/attachment-0001.html</A> <BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:19:28 EST<BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wr290@aol.com"
ymailto="mailto:wr290@aol.com">wr290@aol.com</A><BR>Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Residential Handrails; CodeTalk<BR> Digest, Vol 52, Issue<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wing6790@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:wing6790@bellsouth.net">wing6790@bellsouth.net</A>, <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keithgipe@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:keithgipe@comcast.net">keithgipe@comcast.net</A><BR>Cc: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=5ae8.717b9572.385b97f0@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:5ae8.717b9572.385b97f0@aol.com">5ae8.717b9572.385b97f0@aol.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR><BR>Hi Jack<BR><BR>Single family dwellings do not require graspable handrails..
<BR><BR>The term dwelling unit is referring to public housing..,.. See the <BR>definition below:<BR><BR><BR>Dwelling Unit. A single unit which provides a kitchen or food preparation <BR>area, <BR>in addition to rooms and spaces for living, bathing, sleeping, and the <BR>like. <BR>Dwelling units include a single family home or a townhouse used as a <BR>transient <BR>group home; an apartment building used as a shelter; guestrooms in a hotel <BR>that <BR>provide sleeping accommodations and food preparation areas; and other <BR>similar <BR>facilities used on a transient basis. For purposes of these guidelines, <BR>use of the term "Dwelling Unit" does not imply the unit is used as a <BR>residence.<BR><BR>Tom Ricci<BR>BT Builders Inc<BR>954-214-4448<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 12/16/2009 8:31:12 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time, <BR><A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wing6790@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:wing6790@bellsouth.net">wing6790@bellsouth.net</A> writes:<BR><BR><BR>Keith,<BR>Great idea, I have all the codes from 1997 forward. My question pertained <BR>to houses built prior 1997, if those handrail designs were every allowed?<BR>Appreciate you comment.<BR>Jack<BR><BR><BR><BR>____________________________________<BR>From: Keith Gipe <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=keithgipe@comcast.net" ymailto="mailto:keithgipe@comcast.net">keithgipe@comcast.net</A>><BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A><BR>Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 6:36:53 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Residential Handrails; CodeTalk Digest, <BR>Vol 52, Issue
12<BR><BR>Why not by some up-to-date code books? None of the styles you describe<BR>would qualify as graspable under the current code.<BR><BR>Keith Gipe<BR>Building Code Consultant<BR>FL Licensed Building Inspector #BN6075<BR>FL Licensed Building Plans Examiner #PX3088<BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com">_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com</A>_ <BR>(mailto:<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com">codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com</A>) <BR>[mailto:<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com">_codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com</A>_ <BR>(mailto:<A
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Topics:<BR><BR>1. Residential Handrail (wing6790)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:20:01 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: wing6790 <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=_wing6790@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:_wing6790@bellsouth.net">_wing6790@bellsouth.net</A>_ (mailto:<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wing6790@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:wing6790@bellsouth.net">wing6790@bellsouth.net</A>) ><BR>Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Residential Handrail<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=_Codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:_Codetalk@myfloridacode.com">_Codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A>_ (mailto:<A href="http://us.mc453..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:Codetalk@myfloridacode.com">Codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A>) <BR>Message-ID: <<A
href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=_853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:_853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">_853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>_ <BR>(mailto:<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>) ><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>While doing real estate transaction inspections on homes that were built at<BR>various times, it is quite common to see various handrail designs..??These<BR>designs include:<BR><BR>1.? 2x6 on edge with spinals attached to the board face.<BR>2.? 1x6 cap on top on a knee wall.<BR>3.? 2x4 or 2x6 laid flat, 'T' shaped handrail and guardrail, most <BR>often?seen<BR>on exterior stairs..<BR><BR>My code books date back to 1997.? My
questions?are do either design meet <BR>the<BR>graspable code requirement and when was the graspable requirement added to<BR>the code.<BR><BR>EXCEPTION:? Handrails for dwellings or within dwelling units shall have a<BR>circular cross section with a diameter of 1 1/4 inches (32 mm) to 2 inches<BR>(51 mm), or provide a noncircular cross section with<BR>equivalent graspability performance.<BR><BR>Thanks for your help<BR>Jack Wingo<BR>Advanced Home Inspections<BR>Melbourne Beach, FL<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL:<BR>_<A href="http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20091215/cc63ab76/a" target=_blank>http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20091215/cc63ab76/a</A><BR>t_ <BR>(<A href="http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20091215/cc63ab76/at"
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href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=933149.82407.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:933149.82407.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com">933149.82407.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>You would have to know when the house was built and look up the code, as it would have to meet the code when the house was built.<BR>?<BR>Even today many handrails do not comply, most common mistake is it not being continuous and not having the proper width in the stairwell.<BR>?<BR>If a house was built in 1997, it would have to comply with the building code in effect at the time the house was permiited, which could be an earlier version.<BR>?<BR>Just because you see a handrail that is common, does not mean that it met code at the time it was built.<BR><BR>--- On Wed, 12/16/09, <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com"
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Contents of CodeTalk digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR>???1. Residential Handrail (wing6790)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 12:20:01 -0800 (PST)<BR>From: wing6790 <<A href="http://us.mc453..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wing6790@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:wing6790@bellsouth.net">wing6790@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Residential Handrail<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:Codetalk@myfloridacode.com">Codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com">853343.96576.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>While doing real estate transaction
inspections on homes that were built at various times, it is quite common to see various handrail designs.??These designs include:<BR><BR>1.? 2x6 on edge with spinals attached to the board face.<BR>2.? 1x6 cap on top on a knee wall.<BR>3.? 2x4 or 2x6 laid flat, 'T' shaped handrail and guardrail, most often?seen on exterior stairs..<BR><BR>My code books date back to 1997.? My questions?are do either design meet the graspable code requirement and when was the graspable requirement added to the code.<BR><BR>EXCEPTION:? Handrails for dwellings or within dwelling units shall have a circular cross section with a diameter of 1 1/4 inches (32 mm) to 2 inches (51 mm), or provide a noncircular cross section with<BR>equivalent graspability performance.<BR><BR>Thanks for your help<BR>Jack Wingo<BR>Advanced Home Inspections<BR>Melbourne Beach, FL<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A
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