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<DIV><SPAN class=492410411-01102009><FONT face="Courier New">Thanks for your
reply...and others.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=492410411-01102009><FONT face="Courier New">I reviewed
specific ESR for ICF walls in question. (ESR is not part of the
product approvals for State or Miami-Dade. Don't know why.
ESR has a lot more information than can be downloaded at either
website.) There is a section in the ESR that states termite
prevention must be provided as required by code. ESR does
not mention anything about an option for termiticide. Maybe this
is provided by manufacturer when requested by purchaser.
Interestingly, the ICF manufacturer has a mesh material that they use for
termite prevention on some of their walls. It was not listed as
an option for the ICF walls noted on plans under review. At this
point, the responsibility for showing code compliance falls on the design
professional. Again, thanks to all that replied on this
topic.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Joe Belcher
[mailto:jdbcodeservices@tampabay.rr.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 29,
2009 7:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Building Officials Association of Florida,
Inc.<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [boafdiscussion] [Florida Code Talk] ICF Walls
(Termite Prevention)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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of the producers of foam plastics intended for use near grade are infusing the
product with termiticides during the manufacturing process. Certification may be
obtained from the supplier or the manufacturer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> WR290@aol.com
[mailto:WR290@aol.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:11
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Building Officials Association of Florida,
Inc.<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [boafdiscussion] [Florida Code Talk] ICF Walls
(Termite Prevention)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I've
been involved in that type of construction and the manufactures does not allow
that. I would suggest getting the manufactures spec relating to that issue. Also
the code is clear. If you need more let me know<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">In a
message dated 9/29/2009 8:21:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rharrell1@cfl.rr.com
writes:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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All,</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">I'm looking
at a set of plans for building constructed of ICF walls. Wall sections
indicate that foam on outside of building will be less than 6 inches
from grade and will be covered with synthetic finish (e.g. Dryvit). In
some areas foam will extend below grade. Are the ICF walls required
to comply with section 2603.8 of the FBCB, more specifically clearances
between earth and foam? Feedback will be much appreciated. Please
let me know if you need additional information or clarification in order to
reply. Thanks.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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Harrell</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">(NOTE:
Designer has classified the building as Type IIB, but technically building is
VB based on construction drawings.)</SPAN><SPAN
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