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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Shame on the owner for trying to
cheat. The owner admits receiving Certified not Registered Notices and
ignored even the notices. I am a sub, sub contractor and rarely pull a
permit as the sub has the responsibility to pull all permits. I have
prevailed many times in court because I follow the NTO statues and properly notice
and lien all jobs I work on that I do not receive payment.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com] <b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 18, 2009
9:12 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> codetalk@myfloridacode.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Florida</st1:place></st1:State> Code Talk] CodeTalk Digest, Vol 48,
Issue 11</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>A properly licensed contractor that files a timely
NTO and Lien Notice can still file a Lien, even if a permit was required, but
not pulled.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:01:30 -0400<br>
From: "Glen Mast" <<a
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ymailto="mailto:glenmast@comcast.net">glenmast@comcast..net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Liesn/ Notice of commencement/<br>
To: "Dave Mahoney" <<a
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ymailto="mailto:m_renne@bellsouth.net">m_renne@bellsouth.net</a>>,<br>
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Designer can not act as contractor on any job that requires a permit unless
they have a contractors license.<br>
<br>
If the subs that say they didn't get paid were electrical, plumbing or HVAC
they probably don't have much standing as they know that their work requires
a permit and there was none.<br>
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Also if I remember correctly a sub only has 90 days after their last day on
the jobsite to send a "NOTICE TO OWNER" or they lose their
mechanics lien rights. (it's been lots of years since I took the test
so maybe that's changed)<br>
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Has she contacted the "design firm"? Are they still around?<br>
<br>
glen mast<br>
MAST DRAFTING & DESIGN<br>
(yes, Praise God we are still in business!)<br>
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From: Dave Mahoney <br>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:39 PM<br>
Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Liesn/ Notice of commencement/<br>
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I have a question that I know someone can answer for me. I did take
the class on Florida Lien Laws but that was a couple of years ago and I
cannot remember everything so before I begin to research this I am sure one
of you Ladies or Gentleman may have a better memory than me. <br>
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Here is the Scenario<br>
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Just recently I have started doing many different jobs for a wonderful
customer. Before I Started working for her she hired a Design Company
to remodel 2 of her bathrooms for a job total of $ 42,000.00. I've seen the
work that they had done and the job came out really nice. Here is her
problem. She told me today that she had paid the design company in full on
May 15th when the job was completed. She received a phone call today from one
of the sub contractors that said that they were not paid. First I looked at
her invoice and did not see a license number. A red Flag went up. I asked her
if she had paid each different Contractor separately. She did not. Apparently
the design <br>
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Company is acting as a contractor. Red flag came up again. I asked her
if there was a permit pulled. Her answer was no I didn't want my taxes to go
up. My next question was did you sign a notice of commencement. No she did
not. I KNOW STUPID, STUPID, STUPID that is why she should hire a contractor.
I then asked if she had received any registered letters from suppliers or Sub
contractors introducing themselves before they had started any work . The 3
Ways I know are registered letter , A letter handed to her, or a letter
posted at the job. She told me that yes she did receive 2 registered letters
at first but they were only from 2 of the subs out of approximately 5. My
question is this. What exactly has this woman gotten herself into? I would hate
to see her have to pay for this again. I would also hate to see the subs not
get paid. Should she see a lawyer? Can a Designer act as a contractor? How
can people educate themselves to hire a contractor?<br>
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