<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>The sub that was not paid, did they file a Notice To Owner?</DIV>
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<DIV>When did the Job Start?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When did the subs that filed the NTO come on the job?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>When was the NTO filed?</DIV>
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<DIV>Is the subcontractor Licensed, and I don't mean Occupational license?</DIV>
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<DIV>If the subcontractor is not properly licensed, they have no Lien Rights and they have no right to sue for non payment.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If the sub is licensed but missed the deadline for filing a lien, they can still sue to get paid.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Since the lien has not been filed in atimely manner, no one has lien rights anyway.</DIV>
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<DIV>Yes the "Design Company" needs a contractors license, and if they don't have the proper license, they committed a crime by working as an unlicensed contractor.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The unlicensed contractor or "Design Company" needs to make sure the subs get paid and the unlicensed design company can be sued for triple damages.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I suggest the client contact the DBPR and local law enforcement about the unlicensed design company.</DIV>
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<DIV>Explain to the lady that this is the kind of stuff that happens when you hire unlicensed contractors and try to play games with permits.</DIV>
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<DIV>I hate to say it, but she deserves what she gets for hiring an unlicensed contractor.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 8/18/09, codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com <I><codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com <codetalk-request@myfloridacode.com><BR>Subject: CodeTalk Digest, Vol 48, Issue 10<BR>To: codetalk@myfloridacode.com<BR>Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 6:39 PM<BR><BR>
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Director<BR>To: "Building Officials Association of Florida, Inc."<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=boafdiscussion@boaf.net" ymailto="mailto:boafdiscussion@boaf.net">boafdiscussion@boaf.net</A>>, <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A>>,<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com">codetalk-bounces@myfloridacode.com</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=D0A9B0B9AC0EA947BD166A1E9148E2D00CBABF@CNPSVR8417.city.northport"
ymailto="mailto:D0A9B0B9AC0EA947BD166A1E9148E2D00CBABF@CNPSVR8417.city.northport">D0A9B0B9AC0EA947BD166A1E9148E2D00CBABF@CNPSVR8417.city.northport</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR><BR><BR>IAEI Names David E. Clements to Serve as CEO and Executive Director<BR><BR>Richardson, Texas-- The International Association of Electrical<BR>Inspectors (IAEI) today announced that its board of directors has named<BR>David E. Clements to serve as the company's chief executive officer and<BR>executive director.<BR><BR>Clements has served since 1998 as chief electrical inspector of Nova<BR>Scotia Power Inc., where he is responsible for overseeing the Electrical<BR>Inspection Department. Clements began his electrical career in 1973 as<BR>an apprentice electrician, receiving his training and education through<BR>the Nova Scotia Institute of Technology, which led to the receipt of his<BR>certificate of qualification as a construction
electrician in 1978. <BR><BR>After several years in the electrical trade, working for a local<BR>electrical firm, he decided in 1981 to take a position with Nova Scotia<BR>Power as an electrical inspector. Five years later, he was promoted to<BR>an electrical inspection specialist. He is a certified engineering<BR>technician and has received a Certificate in Management from the<BR>Canadian Institute of Management through Saint Mary's University.<BR><BR>Presently, Clements sits as a voting member on the Technical Committee<BR>on Canadian Electrical Code, Part I, and is a member of the Regulatory<BR>Authority Committee and the Canadian Advisory Committee on Electrical<BR>Safety.<BR><BR>He was international president of IAEI in 2007 and served on the board<BR>for 13 years. During his tenure on the board he chaired a number of<BR>committees including fiscal affairs and long range planning.<BR><BR>Clements said, "A major benefit of the IAEI is the strength
of its<BR>membership and the many network and educational opportunities it<BR>provides its members. It is critical to continue to add and retain<BR>members, and the organization must continue to offer the best possible<BR>member benefits in order to achieve this. We must ensure that our<BR>members have useful career tools that assist them in staying ahead of<BR>the latest electrical trends, accessible and diverse opportunities for<BR>networking and strong professional development. "<BR><BR>Clements will take up his new duties on July 1, 2010, and join IAEI's<BR>board. He succeeds James W. Carpenter, a 37-year member of IAEI, who has<BR>been chief executive officer since 2002.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Bryan P. Holland<BR><BR>City of North Port<BR><BR>4970 City Hall Blvd.<BR><BR>North Port, FL 34286<BR><BR>(941) 429-7053<BR><BR><A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bholland@cityofnorthport.com"
ymailto="mailto:bholland@cityofnorthport.com">bholland@cityofnorthport.com</A><BR><BR>www.iaeifl.org <<A href="http://www.iaeifl.org/" target=_blank>http://www.iaeifl.org</A>> <BR><BR>www.boaf.net<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20090818/49425abe/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank>http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20090818/49425abe/attachment-0001.html</A> <BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:11:54 EDT<BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WPMyrick@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:WPMyrick@aol.com">WPMyrick@aol.com</A><BR>Subject: [Florida Code Talk] 1 Hr. Rated Wall & Ceiling<BR>To: <A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com"
ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cf8.5fad44d8.37bc650a@aol.com" ymailto="mailto:cf8.5fad44d8.37bc650a@aol.com">cf8.5fad44d8.37bc650a@aol.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>Greetings everyone,<BR><BR>I have an Interior build-out inside an existing steel building. Can the 9' <BR>high 1 Hr. Rated Wall terminate at the 1 Hr. Rated Ceiling, or does this <BR>wall have to continue up and terminate at the underside of the roof deck?<BR><BR>Paul Myrick, C.B.C.<BR>Jacksonville, FL<BR><BR><BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A href="http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20090818/3256cb14/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank>http://myfloridacode.com/pipermail/codetalk/attachments/20090818/3256cb14/attachment-0001.html</A>
<BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:39:20 -0400<BR>From: "Dave Mahoney" <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=m_renne@bellsouth.net" ymailto="mailto:m_renne@bellsouth.net">m_renne@bellsouth.net</A>><BR>Subject: [Florida Code Talk] Liesn/ Notice of commencement/<BR>To: <<A href="http://us.mc453.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=codetalk@myfloridacode.com" ymailto="mailto:codetalk@myfloridacode.com">codetalk@myfloridacode.com</A>><BR>Message-ID: <008e01ca2054$bb2ab380$e569fb4b@DD2GZ9B1><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"<BR><BR>I have a question that I know someone can answer for me. I did take the<BR>class on Florida Lien Laws but that was a couple of years ago and I cannot<BR>remember everything so before I begin to research this I am sure one of you<BR>Ladies or Gentleman may have a better memory than me. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Here is the Scenario<BR><BR><BR><BR>Just
recently I have started doing many different jobs for a wonderful<BR>customer. Before I Started working for her she hired a Design Company to<BR>remodel 2 of her bathrooms for a job total of $ 42,000.00. I've seen the<BR>work that they had done and the job came out really nice. Here is her<BR>problem. She told me today that she had paid the design company in full on<BR>May 15th when the job was completed. She received a phone call today from<BR>one of the sub contractors that said that they were not paid. First I looked<BR>at her invoice and did not see a license number. A red Flag went up. I asked<BR>her if she had paid each different Contractor separately. She did not.<BR>Apparently the design <BR><BR>Company is acting as a contractor. Red flag came up again. I asked her if<BR>there was a permit pulled. Her answer was no I didn't want my taxes to go<BR>up. My next question was did you sign a notice of commencement. No she did<BR>not. I KNOW
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID that is why she should hire a contractor.<BR>I then asked if she had received any registered letters from suppliers or<BR>Sub contractors introducing themselves before they had started any work .<BR>The 3 Ways I know are registered letter , A letter handed to her, or a<BR>letter posted at the job. She told me that yes she did receive 2 registered<BR>letters at first but they were only from 2 of the subs out of approximately<BR>5. My question is this. What exactly has this woman gotten herself into? I<BR>would hate to see her have to pay for this again. I would also hate to see<BR>the subs not get paid. Should she see a lawyer? Can a Designer act as a<BR>contractor? How can people educate themselves to hire a contractor?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <A
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