[Florida Code Talk] Attaching Deck to Stucco
Bob Koning
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Wed Jan 21 17:14:12 EST 2009
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Al, Good advice except it is a code violation to use aluminum (any grade) flashing in contact with stucco or masonry. Use SS, Galv, lead, Zinc or Copper R.J.Koning - Director Contractors Institute rjkoning at contractorsinstitute.com 8301 Joliet Street Hudson, Fl 34667 727-863-5147 -----Original Message----- From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Al Koskey Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:21 AM To: Randy Shackelford; Ken Rodgers; codetalk at myfloridacode.com Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] Attaching Deck to Stucco In 1972 I had a office I rented in a small strip center in Connecticut. The rear exit was a 5' wide by 3' deep wood landing with stairs to the ground 12' below. It overlooked a small stream. My cousin and the girl from the office next door use to flirt with each other out there. One day I came in and walked out to say hi. As soon as my additional weight was added to the landing the whole thing went down into the stream. The girl broke her arm and never talked to my cousin again. I had a few punctures from rusty nails, and my cousin just got wet. Afterwards we looked to see what had failed. There was aluminum head flashing still attached to the wall. The 20 year old PT ledger was somewhat rotted but did not fail. It had a sort of end flashing but there was no shingle overlap with the head flashing. Rot damage was primarily at the ends of the ledger. The 5/6" x 3" lag screws were well rusted but still servicable however they had all pulled right out of the ring joist. Enough moisture had worked its way under the ledger from the ends and around the lag screws to rot out the lag screw conection to the ring joist. Whenever I have a exterior wood connection to a home I think of that wood landing that fell. You must keep the moisture out. It doesn't take extra cost you just need to flash it properly. I think you would be crazy to attach the ledger to the stucco. There is just no way to properly fash it. Saw cut out the stucco for the size of the ledger. Use a putty knife to make sure you can slide at least 1 1/2" to 2" of aluminum flashing up under the top and sides of the stucco. If fasteners are in the way, just make your saw cut larger and plan on a stucco patch. Use to be you could get a 5000 series aluminum but today all that is available is 6061, if your job is near the shore use stainless flashing as 6061 is next to useless in salt conditions. I would start by installing 1 1/2" flashing at the bottom stucco cut with a turn out at the two corners to divert water, then cover the cutout area with Grace Ice and Water Shield. Slide in the head flashing and end flashing, attach the ledger, attach a strip of aluminum as a drip edge to the bottom of the ledger, then bend the head and end flashing over the ledger, shingle style. Cover the whole flashing / ledger assembly with a layer of Grace Ice and Water Shield. Use hangers to attach the joists. I would use coated or stainless screws to assemble the deck. If the deck is to be water tight, the head flashing would be a simple "L" attached to whatever surface membrane your using. The hardest areas to flash are the 4 corners of your ledger and the ends. You must overlap the head flashing such that the end flashing is counter flashed. Adding a turn out to the bottom corners to divert water flow is also a must but there just isn't a good way to seal the ends that doesn't rely on caulk. Good Luck, Alex Koskey, Pres. Koskey Corporation, Inc. Florida Lic. CBC1250552 Cell: (850) 585-7883 Fax: (850) 654-9812 E-Mail: AKoskey at cox.net Web: www.KoskeyHomes.com _______________________________________________ CodeTalk mailing list CodeTalk at myfloridacode.com Unsubscribe or change your options at: http://myfloridacode.com/mailman/listinfo/codetalk
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