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Christopher Banbury, PE

President

 

Ark Engineering, Inc.

PO Box 10129, Brooksville, FL 34603

22 North Broad ST, Brooksville, FL 34601

Phone: (352) 754-2424

Fax: (352) 754-2412

www.arkengineering.net

 

 

Well gosh, let me just think out loud here...

 

The definition of repair is rather misleading in that it appears to
speak to minor maintenance.

 

REPAIR. The patching, restoration and/or minor replacement of materials,
elements, components, equipment and/or fixtures for the purposes of
maintaining such materials, elements, components, equipment and/or
fixtures in good or sound condition.

 

However, the repair classification clearly includes cases of substantial
structural damage where it is the applicant's intent to restore the
building back to original conditions. I suppose the BO has the authority
to construe the definition to either extreme depending on the
circumstances. And of course I can appreciate the importance of having a
situation like this classified as a repair. 

 

I have to ask myself a few questions:

1. How does the applicant demonstrate the original configuration and
that the proposed construction is not an alteration? Does the BO require
the new partitions and openings to meet egress and accessibility
requirements? This seems like wholesale alteration.

2. New structural members must meet the current code and the entire
building as a whole must meet the wind provisions of the current code by
407.3.2.1.1. What is the course of action if the portion of the building
that is still standing requires alteration to meet current wind code?

 

Christopher Banbury, PE

President

 

Ark Engineering, Inc.

PO Box 10129, Brooksville, FL 34603

22 North Broad ST, Brooksville, FL 34601

Phone: (352) 754-2424

Fax: (352) 754-2412

www.arkengineering.net

 

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-

> bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuritzky

> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:31 AM

> To: codetalk at myfloridacode.com

> Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] work area for fire damaged SFR

> 

> See, it's these differences of opinions on fairly straight forward
issues

> that confounds us all.

> 

> I do not see it as a simple 'repair'.  Even if just put back into
former

> configuration.

> 

> All exterior doors and window will be replaced.

> Structural damage from heat and water will have to be analyzed.

> A whole new roof system, and attachment will be required.

> Probably will have to completely redo all above slab plumbing if the
pvc

> piping was damaged.

> All interior wall, finishes, insulation, electrical, HVAC will have to
be

> redone.

> 

> As much as I'd like to see it treated as a repair, from a home-owner's

> perspective, I just don't see how it can happen per code.

> 

> If this isn't a Level 3, then how do you attend to additions and mods
of

> far

> less encompassing conditions, no matter what the cause was.

> 

> Eric D. Kuritzky, Architect, CBO

> Orlando

> 

> 

> On 11/3/08 11:08 AM, "Dennis Stanley" <tstanley at i-1.net> wrote:

> 

> > I agree with Bill.  It could be a repair if it is put back the way
it

> was.

> > If it is being re-configured, then not a repair.  It appears to be a

> repair

> > with substantial structural damage to me.

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Bill LeMaster" <blemaster at co.okaloosa.fl.us>

> > To: "Christopher Banbury" <cbanbury at arkengineering.net>; "Mark
Cramer"

> > <mcramer1 at tampabay.rr.com>; <codetalk at myfloridacode.com>

> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:53 AM

> > Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] work area for fire damaged SFR

> >

> >

> > I think this is a repair not an alteration.

> >

> > William T. LeMaster CBO/CEAP/MCP

> > Okaloosa County

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com

> > [mailto:codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Christopher

> > Banbury

> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:45 AM

> > To: Mark Cramer; codetalk at myfloridacode.com

> > Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] work area for fire damaged SFR

> >

> > I vote level 3. It sounds like 100% of the building area requires a
roof

> > which would set the work area at 100%. Also one might argue that
egress,

> > accessibility, & life safety would need to be addressed for 100% of
the

> > building since new interior partitions are being constructed.

> >

> >

> > Christopher Banbury, PE

> > President

> >

> > Ark Engineering, Inc.

> > PO Box 10129, Brooksville, FL 34603

> > 22 North Broad ST, Brooksville, FL 34601

> > Phone: (352) 754-2424

> > Fax: (352) 754-2412

> > www.arkengineering.net

> >

> >

> >

> >> -----Original Message-----

> >> From: codetalk-bounces at myfloridacode.com [mailto:codetalk-

> >> bounces at myfloridacode.com] On Behalf Of Mark Cramer

> >> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 4:16 PM

> >> To: 'CodeTalk'

> >> Subject: Re: [Florida Code Talk] FW: Florida Building

> > Commission(October

> >> Meeting Summary)

> >>

> >> An existing 1 story SFR is extensively damaged in a fire, leaving
only

> > the

> >> exterior block walls and one partition wall standing. Roof
structure

> > is

> >> totally gone.

> >>

> >> Is this a level 2 or level 3 alteration as defined in the Existing

> >> building

> >> code? Level 3 is defined there as follows:

> >>

> >> ALTERATION-LEVEL 3

> >> 305.1  Scope.

> >> Level 3 alterations apply where the work area exceeds 50 percent of

> > the

> >> aggregate area of the building and made within any 12-month period.

> >> Exception: Work areas in which the alteration work is exclusively

> >> plumbing,

> >> mechanical or electrical shall not be included in the computation
of

> > total

> >> area of all work areas.

> >>

> >>

> >> Mark Cramer

> >> Mark Cramer Inspection Services, Inc.

> >> 492 20th Ave.

> >> Indian Rocks Beach, FL 33785

> >> 727-595-4211

> >> http://www.BestTampaInspector.com

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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> Eric D. Kuritzky, Architect, CBO

> 

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